World cooling – but scientists insist that warming is real

n8rsk8r · 04-07-2008, 01:22 AM

World cooling – but scientists insist that warming is real

By Craig Brown
CLIMATOLOGISTS may insist the world is getting warmer and that climate change is here to stay.

But the meteorological phenomenon called La Niña, in which the central and eastern Pacific Ocean is getting cooler, means global temperatures will drop slightly this year.

La Niña's influence on the world means average global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory.

The phenomenon is sister to the better known El Niño, or the Little Boy, which appears when too little cold water rises to the ocean's surface, causing the planet's temperature to rise and bringing major disruption to weather systems.

La Niña has caused floods in Mozambique, and freezing temperatures in China.

David Parker, research scientist at the Met Office's Hadley Centre, which studies climate change and variation, said La Niña was part of the natural cycle of the world's seas.

"It happens of its own accord, and eventually, when it finishes, the effect wears off and the world's temperature will rise again," he said.

"While it is in effect, the world temperature will cool by a quarter of a degree, which isn't a lot, given that we've had a half to three-quarters of a degree warming already, but it's quite a chunk relative to the global warming we've had so far."

He added that though Britain had not felt the full force of La Niña's influence, it would affect the country's weather.

"It means that the climate will be colder, but it has different effects across the world," he said. "We had a mild winter this year, which to some extent goes along with La Niña.

There's also a greater than average chance of a damper summer – which I think the Met Office has already forecast – but not to the same extent as last summer. In fact, last summer's damp weather was probably connected with La Niña."

However, Mr Parker said that it was wrong to believe the drop in temperatures meant global warming was not a reality.

"You have to be very careful how you look at these figures; 1998 was an El Niño year. The current temperature was unusually warm for then. Now we have a La Niña and it's unusually cool compared with trends nowadays. If you take a trend over ten years, you don't get a warming, but that's too short a period in which to get a trend."

"In a proper long-term sense we are on a warming trend.

"The expectation is that the temperature of the world is going up and up. There's no evidence that global warming isn't happening."

The World Meteorological Organisation has pointed out that the decade from 1998 to 2007 was the warmest on record. Since the beginning of the 20th century the global average surface temperature has risen by 0.74C.

Dr Neil Wells, senior lecturer in oceanography at the National Oceanography Centre at Southampton University, said: "It is a major event because it is so vast – it is one of the major causes of weather variation. It redistributes heavy rain where you wouldn't expect it. Northern Australia tends to be affected by it. The evidence that climate change has affected it just isn't strong.

"We know this has happened for thousands of years – the flow of the Nile has been recorded as being affected by it – and that it has gone through various long period cycles, but we cannot say that climate change has been affected."

The full article contains 593 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
Last Updated: 04 April 2008 10:36 PM

Hamburglar · 04-07-2008, 01:50 AM

we talked about this in my meteorology class

sorry I have to post this as much as possible

winndea · 04-19-2008, 05:18 PM

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He termed himself the “successor to St. Al,” drawing some groans with his reference to Al Gore. But Cheney said he’s become convinced of global warming, “or, as I prefer to call it, spring. I don’t want to sound like an alarmist, but it’s going to be a lot warmer.”

Dick Cheney, and his sunglasses, steal the show at a Washington fete : Top of the Ticket : Los Angeles Times

**FreeBird** · 04-20-2008, 10:02 AM

ok we hit record lows for 4 straight days here in the middle of fucking april!!! sorry but for it to get into 40's then 50's in south florida is BOWLERSHITS to warming

n8rsk8r · 04-20-2008, 10:52 AM

it is not happening. We don't even know what our planet truly does, and to say we do is bowlersheets.

Here is the deal.. there is 2 major fubars to the warming theory.

They did readings and didn't covert the numbers over after Y2K (2000

) fiasco. That meant the readings were all crazy wrong... they didn't tell anyone (media/people of the world) outside of their department what happened. A few whistle blowers came forward and let it be known the truth. There is also issues with the surface stations (temp taking spots) around the globe also.

Home

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A volunteer survey of the stations used to collect temperature data to "study" global warming, and why that data is compromised.

A typical day in the Stevenson Screen Paint Test Watts Up With That?
Depending how the lil stations are painted shows that their temp could fluctuate by 1 degree.

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Given that the global warming cult is concerned about temperature increases in the tenths of a single degree it is worth noting that changing the kind of paint used on the sensor enclosures can alter the temperature reading by more than a degree.

Global Warming Hoax: News
links to articles about the global warming hoax

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt. Watts Up With That?
A plagiarized article published in 2007 to support the global warming fraud, that was actually taken from an article that was written back in 1922!

There is NO global warming.

ryanrule · 04-20-2008, 11:36 AM

lol you wish.

n8rsk8r · 04-20-2008, 12:13 PM

were is the reliable data? Why is it in places all around the globe... they are either STILL having winter storms, or have had winter weather unlike they have had in memory? In your thread I have posted articles supporting the opposite of global warming. I guess where is your proof that there is indeed global warming... can you come up with/do you have reliable data that suggests it is caused by man? Fact of the matter is that 100yrs of data isn't crap.. if you had maybe 10,000yrs of recorded data then yeah I would believe you and the global warming theory.. but everything we have come up with from ice core samples to rings on petrified wood suggest that the earths temperature swings both ways... gets hot than cools way down again. Ying for Yang.. doing the bull dance

Hamburglar · 04-20-2008, 01:31 PM

meh

iicrazy · 04-20-2008, 01:33 PM

currently snowing here

Hamburglar · 04-20-2008, 01:36 PM

in teh 60's here

**Therapist** · 04-20-2008, 03:23 PM

global warming my ass... it fucking snowed here yesterday... its never fucking snowed this late in the year in the past 25 years here...

Stinky · 04-21-2008, 09:07 AM

Weird, I watched a special last night (think on Discovery HD, can't remember), like top 10 ways that human race could be wiped out. Earthquake, Tsunami, etc...Nuclear war was #3, some sort of virus or pandemic was #2, global warming was number fucking 1, I couldn't believe it, they had Al Gore on and were suckin his cock for like 10 minutes.

n8rsk8r · 07-03-2008, 11:51 PM

"Spin-orbit coupling" to blame; effects could last decades.

A new paper published by the Astronomical Society of Australia is warning of upcoming global cooling due to lessened solar activity. The study, written by three Australian researchers, has identified what is known as a "spin-orbit coupling" affecting the rotation rate of the sun. That rotation, in turn, is linked to the intensity of the solar cycle and climate changes here on Earth. The study's lead author, Ian Wilson, explains further, "[The paper] supports the contention that the level of activity on the Sun will significantly diminish sometime in the next decade and remain low for about 20 - 30 years."

According to Wilson, the result is a strong, rapid pulse of global cooling, "On each occasion that the Sun has done this in the past the World’s mean temperature has dropped by ~ 1 - 2 C."

A 2 C drop would be twice as large as all the warming the earth has experienced since the start of the industrial era, and would be significant enough to impact global agriculture output.
Earlier this year, astronomers from around the world noted solar activity was suspiciously low; some began predicting global cooling at that time. Since then, activity has remained far below average, with it now being over two months since a single sunspot has appeared on the surface of the sun.
In May, a team of German climatologists published research stating that, due to "natural effects", global warming would halt for up to 15 years.
The new paper appears in the June issue of PASA, Publications of the Astronomical Society of Australia.

tx3nc · 07-04-2008, 08:10 AM

The ICE AGE is coming!!!!

I think the science is correct.

And I think the alarmists will switch sides and continue to suck dick.

n8rsk8r · 07-04-2008, 09:32 AM

think the earth just goes back and forth in temp, and really we don't effect it too much. That being said I don't want to see our trees being cut down and all of that.. I still think we need to be environmentally smart.

**Therapist** · 07-04-2008, 09:38 AM

but cutting down tree's is soo much fun

n8rsk8r · 07-04-2008, 10:17 AM

rbohm · 07-04-2008, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nEighter

think the earth just goes back and forth in temp, and really we don't effect it too much. That being said I don't want to see our trees being cut down and all of that.. I still think we need to be environmentally smart.

ok, i am officially scared now. it isnt often that i agree with nEighter, but in this case i agree. man has little affect on the global temperatures, and i also believe that we need to be responsible in how we manage our environment. companies like weyehouser and georgia pacific plant more trees than they cut down because they have long acknowledged the need to renew the forest if they are to continue in business. they both have also developed fast growth trees that take far less time to mature.

n8rsk8r · 07-04-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbohm

ok, i am officially scared now. it isnt often that i agree with nEighter, but in this case i agree. man has little affect on the global temperatures, and i also believe that we need to be responsible in how we manage our environment. companies like weyehouser and georgia pacific plant more trees than they cut down because they have long acknowledged the need to renew the forest if they are to continue in business. they both have also developed fast growth trees that take far less time to mature.

I hadn't heard of the fast growing trees.. are they quality? GM plants are scary stuff

Like the rice and wheat and corn they have modified to produce only 1 season. Stuff is REALLY bad for the environment. They are saying that those crops could be why there is a "disappearance" of the bees. Once the nectar of those plants is taken in by the bees it is chemically like formaldehyde. That and those plants cross pollinating with other plants that could in theory wipe out other crops/species of plants because of the "program" within the genes of the plant to not reproduce. There are warehouses in Denmark or Norway

can't think of exact location.. that have nothing but seeds for natural plants. They are storing them in case of a disaster wiping out global plant life.

tx3nc · 07-04-2008, 03:15 PM

Norway.

Norway's ark: underground vault to house world's seeds

But this year they might be fucked.

North Pole May Be Ice-Free for First Time This Summer

The north pole is expected to melt this year. No Santa this Christmas.

**Therapist** · 07-04-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nEighter

I had that song as my ringtone for the longest time

rbohm · 07-04-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nEighter

I hadn't heard of the fast growing trees.. are they quality? GM plants are scary stuff

Like the rice and wheat and corn they have modified to produce only 1 season. Stuff is REALLY bad for the environment. They are saying that those crops could be why there is a "disappearance" of the bees. Once the nectar of those plants is taken in by the bees it is chemically like formaldehyde. That and those plants cross pollinating with other plants that could in theory wipe out other crops/species of plants because of the "program" within the genes of the plant to not reproduce. There are warehouses in Denmark or Norway

can't think of exact location.. that have nothing but seeds for natural plants. They are storing them in case of a disaster wiping out global plant life.

first understand that fast growth means it takes about 1/2 the time to mature depending on the species, which means instead of having to wait 50-75 years to harvest trees, you only need wait 30-35 years. the wood is not as good a quality, but with modern techniques like pressure treated lumber, gluelam beams, and other engineered types of wood construction, it doesnt make a difference.

as for GM crops, there are issues with them as food crops for humans, but as animal feed or as a base to making ethanol, there are fewer issues. it would be nice though if they would not grow GM crops on the same farms that grow non GM crops.

04-07-2008, 01:22 AM	#1
n8rsk8r i <3 whalepenis Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TwiLight zOne!! Posts: 16,876	World cooling – but scientists insist that warming is real World cooling – but scientists insist that warming is real By Craig Brown CLIMATOLOGISTS may insist the world is getting warmer and that climate change is here to stay. But the meteorological phenomenon called La Niña, in which the central and eastern Pacific Ocean is getting cooler, means global temperatures will drop slightly this year. La Niña's influence on the world means average global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory. The phenomenon is sister to the better known El Niño, or the Little Boy, which appears when too little cold water rises to the ocean's surface, causing the planet's temperature to rise and bringing major disruption to weather systems. La Niña has caused floods in Mozambique, and freezing temperatures in China. David Parker, research scientist at the Met Office's Hadley Centre, which studies climate change and variation, said La Niña was part of the natural cycle of the world's seas. "It happens of its own accord, and eventually, when it finishes, the effect wears off and the world's temperature will rise again," he said. "While it is in effect, the world temperature will cool by a quarter of a degree, which isn't a lot, given that we've had a half to three-quarters of a degree warming already, but it's quite a chunk relative to the global warming we've had so far." He added that though Britain had not felt the full force of La Niña's influence, it would affect the country's weather. "It means that the climate will be colder, but it has different effects across the world," he said. "We had a mild winter this year, which to some extent goes along with La Niña. There's also a greater than average chance of a damper summer – which I think the Met Office has already forecast – but not to the same extent as last summer. In fact, last summer's damp weather was probably connected with La Niña." However, Mr Parker said that it was wrong to believe the drop in temperatures meant global warming was not a reality. "You have to be very careful how you look at these figures; 1998 was an El Niño year. The current temperature was unusually warm for then. Now we have a La Niña and it's unusually cool compared with trends nowadays. If you take a trend over ten years, you don't get a warming, but that's too short a period in which to get a trend." "In a proper long-term sense we are on a warming trend. "The expectation is that the temperature of the world is going up and up. There's no evidence that global warming isn't happening." The World Meteorological Organisation has pointed out that the decade from 1998 to 2007 was the warmest on record. Since the beginning of the 20th century the global average surface temperature has risen by 0.74C. Dr Neil Wells, senior lecturer in oceanography at the National Oceanography Centre at Southampton University, said: "It is a major event because it is so vast – it is one of the major causes of weather variation. It redistributes heavy rain where you wouldn't expect it. Northern Australia tends to be affected by it. The evidence that climate change has affected it just isn't strong. "We know this has happened for thousands of years – the flow of the Nile has been recorded as being affected by it – and that it has gone through various long period cycles, but we cannot say that climate change has been affected." The full article contains 593 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper. Last Updated: 04 April 2008 10:36 PM __________________

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04-20-2008, 12:13 PM	#7
n8rsk8r i <3 whalepenis Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TwiLight zOne!! Posts: 16,876	were is the reliable data? Why is it in places all around the globe... they are either STILL having winter storms, or have had winter weather unlike they have had in memory? In your thread I have posted articles supporting the opposite of global warming. I guess where is your proof that there is indeed global warming... can you come up with/do you have reliable data that suggests it is caused by man? Fact of the matter is that 100yrs of data isn't crap.. if you had maybe 10,000yrs of recorded data then yeah I would believe you and the global warming theory.. but everything we have come up with from ice core samples to rings on petrified wood suggest that the earths temperature swings both ways... gets hot than cools way down again. Ying for Yang.. doing the bull dance __________________

04-20-2008, 01:31 PM	#8
Hamburglar I masturbate to teletubbies Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dumpster behind an Iowa McDonalds Posts: 12,974	meh __________________

04-07-2008, 01:50 AM	#2
Hamburglar I masturbate to teletubbies Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dumpster behind an Iowa McDonalds Posts: 12,974	we talked about this in my meteorology class sorry I have to post this as much as possible __________________

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04-20-2008, 01:36 PM	#10
Hamburglar I masturbate to teletubbies Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dumpster behind an Iowa McDonalds Posts: 12,974	in teh 60's here __________________

04-20-2008, 03:23 PM	#11
Therapist Μολὼν λαβέ Space Invaders Champion! Moon Lander Champion! Billards Champion! Donkey Kong Champion! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 13,980	global warming my ass... it fucking snowed here yesterday... its never fucking snowed this late in the year in the past 25 years here... __________________

04-21-2008, 09:07 AM	#12
Stinky Mr. Fusion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The future...or is it the past? Posts: 15,911	Weird, I watched a special last night (think on Discovery HD, can't remember), like top 10 ways that human race could be wiped out. Earthquake, Tsunami, etc...Nuclear war was #3, some sort of virus or pandemic was #2, global warming was number fucking 1, I couldn't believe it, they had Al Gore on and were suckin his cock for like 10 minutes. Last edited by Stinky; 04-21-2008 at 09:10 AM.

07-03-2008, 11:51 PM	#13
n8rsk8r i <3 whalepenis Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TwiLight zOne!! Posts: 16,876	Australian Researchers Warn of Global Cooling "Spin-orbit coupling" to blame; effects could last decades. A new paper published by the Astronomical Society of Australia is warning of upcoming global cooling due to lessened solar activity. The study, written by three Australian researchers, has identified what is known as a "spin-orbit coupling" affecting the rotation rate of the sun. That rotation, in turn, is linked to the intensity of the solar cycle and climate changes here on Earth. The study's lead author, Ian Wilson, explains further, "[The paper] supports the contention that the level of activity on the Sun will significantly diminish sometime in the next decade and remain low for about 20 - 30 years." According to Wilson, the result is a strong, rapid pulse of global cooling, "On each occasion that the Sun has done this in the past the World’s mean temperature has dropped by ~ 1 - 2 C." A 2 C drop would be twice as large as all the warming the earth has experienced since the start of the industrial era, and would be significant enough to impact global agriculture output. Earlier this year, astronomers from around the world noted solar activity was suspiciously low; some began predicting global cooling at that time. Since then, activity has remained far below average, with it now being over two months since a single sunspot has appeared on the surface of the sun. In May, a team of German climatologists published research stating that, due to "natural effects", global warming would halt for up to 15 years. The new paper appears in the June issue of PASA, Publications of the Astronomical Society of Australia. __________________

07-04-2008, 08:10 AM	#14
tx3nc big or little, the size of the hole doesn't much matter Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,549	The ICE AGE is coming!!!! I think the science is correct. And I think the alarmists will switch sides and continue to suck dick.

07-04-2008, 09:32 AM	#15
n8rsk8r i <3 whalepenis Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TwiLight zOne!! Posts: 16,876	think the earth just goes back and forth in temp, and really we don't effect it too much. That being said I don't want to see our trees being cut down and all of that.. I still think we need to be environmentally smart. __________________

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tx3nc big or little, the size of the hole doesn't much matter Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,549	Norway. Norway's ark: underground vault to house world's seeds But this year they might be fucked. North Pole May Be Ice-Free for First Time This Summer The north pole is expected to melt this year. No Santa this Christmas.

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