New Orleans levee fails; floods again

**jdv** · 09-23-2005, 10:28 AM

God damn, it just don't get any better down there.

NEW ORLEANS - Hurricane Rita’s steady rains sent water pouring over a patched levee Friday, cascading into one of the city’s lowest-lying neighborhoods in a devastating repeat of New Orleans’ flooding nightmare.

“Our worst fears came true,” said Maj. Barry Guidry of the Georgia National Guard.

“We have three significant breaches in the levee and the water is rising rapidly,” he said. “At daybreak I found substantial breaks and they’ve grown larger.”

Dozens of blocks in the Ninth Ward were under water as a waterfall at least 30 feet wide poured over and through a dike that had been used to patch breaks in the Industrial Canal levee. On the street that runs parallel to the canal, the water ran waist-deep and was rising fast. Guidry said water was rising about three inches a minute.

The impoverished neighborhood was one of the areas of the city hit hardest by Katrina’s floodwaters and finally had been pumped dry before Hurricane Rita struck.

Throughout Friday morning, water began rising again onto buckled homes, piles of rubble and mud-caked cars that Katrina had covered with up to 20 feet of water.

Ninth Ward believed cleared of residents
Sally Forman, an aide to Mayor Ray Nagin, said officials knew the levees were compromised, but they believe that the Ninth Ward is cleared of residents.

“I wouldn’t imagine there’s one person down there,” Forman said.

Mitch Frazier, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers, said contractors were being brought in Friday morning in an effort to repair the new damage. The corps had earlier installed 60-foot sections of metal across some of the city’s canals to protect against flooding and storm surges.

Refugees from the Lower Ninth Ward were housed at the Progressive Baptist church in Lafayette. They were watching the TV news as the canal levee was breached again, flooding their neighborhood anew.

“It's like looking at a murder,” Quentrell Jefferson said. “The first time is bad. After that, you numb up.”

Forecasters say anywhere from 3 to 5 inches of rain could fall in New Orleans as Rita passes Friday and Saturday.

Another concern is the storm surge accompanying Rita, which could send water rising as much as 4 feet above high tide.

Already Friday morning, rain was falling and a steady 20 mph wind, with gusts to 35 mph, was blowing.

Higher than expected storm surge
Army Corps of Engineers Brig. Gen. Robert Gen. Robert Crear blamed Friday's problems on a storm surge that was higher than expected so early in Rita's assault.

“The surge is affected by the winds and we expect that to continue for several more hours,” he said, adding that contractors were being brought in Friday morning to repair the new damage with rock rocks and sandbags.

Federal Emergency Management spokesman Butch Kinerney said the breaks appeared to be mainly in places where sand had washed away, and that the stone holding the wall together was still intact.

FEMA was working with parish officials to pump out the water that was flowing from the levee, Kinerney said, but that main pump in the Ninth Ward was still inoperable because of Katrina damage.

“It's just not holding,” St. Bernard Parish Sheriff Jack Stevens said as he watched water pouring from the same levee breaks at midmorning. “The only way you'll be able to get out of here will be by boat in about five or 10 minutes.”

Because of uncertain weather conditions from Hurricane Rita, the recovery of bodies was suspended. Already the death toll from Hurricane Katrina stands at 841 in Louisiana, and at least 1,078 across the Gulf Coast.

Grim advice from the governor
As many as 500,000 people in southwestern Louisiana, many of them already displaced by Hurricane Katrina, were told to evacuate and many jammed roads north to escape.

Glynn Stevenson, who swam out of his New Orleans house with belongings taped to his body, had just gotten settled into a trailer provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency when the call came for him to uproot again.

“It’s nothing to get mad about,” he said Thursday. “Just keep a cool attitude and help your brothers.”

As for those who refuse to leave, Gov. Kathleen Blanco advised: “Perhaps they should write their Social Security numbers on their arms with indelible ink.”

Rita was headed for a Texas landfall but the massive storm threatened southwestern Louisiana as well, with tropical storm-force winds expected by noon and hurricane-force winds of 74 mph or higher by early Saturday. Flash floods were possible as 10 to 15 inches of rain was forecast.

By midday Friday, state police said there was already low-level flooding in coastal Lafourche and Terrebonne parishes, forcing street closures.

National Guard and medical units were put on standby in the city. Helicopters were being positioned, and search-and-rescue boats from the state wildlife department were staged on high ground on the edge of Rita’s projected path. Blanco said she also asked for 15,000 more federal troops.

Buses running continuously
“We’ve got buses running continuously to get residents out. We’re trying to learn from other areas, not to repeat their mistake,” said Cindy Murphy, a manager at the police bureau in Lake Charles.

Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad Allen said three days worth of supplies, including food and water, for 500,000 people are ready and waiting around Louisiana, if needed after Rita.

Hospitals around the state were shutting down, too. Jimmy Guidry, Louisiana’s state health officer, said patients from hospitals in Lake Charles and Cameron were being evacuated, some north to Alexandria, La., and others to hospitals as far away as Oklahoma.

A mandatory evacuation order was in effect for homes on the eastern bank of the Mississippi, and police said people in the city’s Algiers section on the other side of the river would be wise to get out, too. But thousands stayed put.

“I’m sticking it out,” said Florida Richardson, who sat on her front porch in Algiers, holding her grandson on her lap. “This house is 85 years old. It’s seen a lot of tornadoes and a lot of hurricanes. You can’t run from the power of God.”

UCBeau · 09-23-2005, 11:04 AM

should new orleans be rebuilt

**Flash!** · 09-23-2005, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadesville

As for those who refuse to leave, Gov. Kathleen Blanco advised: “Perhaps they should write their Social Security numbers on their arms with indelible ink.”

Maybe people will get THAT message.

But probably not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCBeau

should new orleans be rebuilt

I think at this point, it'd make a good lake.

**U r B a N 96** · 09-23-2005, 11:23 AM

wow... just wow

340.29m/s · 09-23-2005, 11:34 AM

Good.

JonJon · 09-23-2005, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCBeau

should new orleans be rebuilt

yes
boobies must be shown

Hamburglar · 09-23-2005, 12:10 PM

we got no place to stay

boobies

SaintTaris · 09-23-2005, 12:15 PM

The Lower and St. Bernard Parish were already gone. If any place in NOLA had to flood again, might as well be the Lower 9 and the Parish.

New Orleans will be rebuilt.

340.29m/s Eat a dick. A big black one you fucking fruit.

grendel · 09-23-2005, 12:27 PM

As for those who refuse to leave, Gov. Kathleen Blanco advised: “Perhaps they should write their Social Security numbers on their arms with indelible ink.”

in my town on the news they said that the people that were going to stay should write their name and ss# on their stomach with permanent marker, i laughed my ass off after i heard that

UCBeau · 09-23-2005, 12:28 PM

but if this is gonna happen again in 100 years or whenver, is it a good idea to rebuild?

SaintTaris · 09-23-2005, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCBeau

but if this is gonna happen again in 100 years or whenver, is it a good idea to rebuild?

Rebuild the Levees the right way. Amsterdam and parts of the Netherlands are below Sea Level.

New Orleans has too much culture and History to die.

UCBeau · 09-23-2005, 12:40 PM

if the levees are holding back water now, how can they be rebuilt?

Hamburglar · 09-23-2005, 12:42 PM

yea but amsterdam doesn't have hurricanes....i'd love to see what the people in Amsterdam would do if a hurricane hit them lol

I think it should be rebuilt but they need a reliable form of evacuation when shit hits the fan like in this case...poor planning on everyones part is what fucked this up so bad
or bring in a shit load of dirt and make it above sea level

nice Sig sainttaris

SaintTaris · 09-23-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamburglar

yea but amsterdam doesn't have hurricanes....
the history and culture isn't worth the loss of life, if they had a 100% reliable hurricane evacuation team or something then i'd say they should rebuild...they need to get everyone out poor,homeless,blue collar people etc. and not take any thing lightly when any hurricane comes cat.1 or 2 GFO!

IMO

What about the White people?

The Levees were basically untouched for about 40 years or so.
Category 1 - 3 Hurricanes were no problem. 4's and 5's are another story. I'm sure the Corp of Engineers can build Levee's and storm walls that are strong enough to contain a Cat 5.

Hamburglar · 09-23-2005, 12:56 PM

White people??

my question is why didn't they build a better levee? they knew shit like this would happean....

raged · 09-23-2005, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamburglar

White people??

my question is why didn't they build a better levee? they knew shit like this would happean....

the almighty $

Murph · 09-23-2005, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamburglar

we got no place to stay

boobies

One of the few song's I really like by Led Zeppelin! It's funny I either love there song's or hate them, no in between!

SaintTaris · 09-23-2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamburglar

White people??

my question is why didn't they build a better levee? they knew shit like this would happean....

Why Didn't Ford build a better Pinto 40 years ago?

6Stang7 · 09-23-2005, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCBeau

if the levees are holding back water now, how can they be rebuilt?

well, they would first use pumps to move the water out, and then build temp. levees to hold the water back until permanent levees are in place.

Murph · 09-23-2005, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintTaris

Why Didn't Ford build a better Pinto 40 years ago?

They did it was called the Mustang II!

6Stang7 · 09-23-2005, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintTaris

Why Didn't Ford build a better Pinto 40 years ago?

they did, they just cut back on things (like a balatter for the gas tank or air bags) to keep it in the target price. if they never did the few cut backs they did, the car would have been one of the greatest engineering feats in automotive history.

SaintTaris · 09-23-2005, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6Stang7

they did, they just cut back on things (like a balatter for the gas tank or air bags) to keep it in the target price. if they never did the few cut backs they did, the car would have been one of the greatest engineering feats in automotive history.

I smell a CT "The Pinto would've been one of the Greatest Engineering feats in automotive history."

6Stang7 · 09-23-2005, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamburglar

White people??

my question is why didn't they build a better levee? they knew shit like this would happean....

they were, but the engineering aspect wasnt just that easy. civil engineers were facing a problem with the soil composition. see, when they would build the levees up higher and stronger, that would increase the weight and cause them to sick into a ground. they would then build them back up, and they would again, sick down even further. this had been going back and forth. i think they would planning to build some kind of soil foundation, but why it never happened i donno.

chaka · 09-23-2005, 01:13 PM

Those people should get the hint and get the fuck out. They have been using huge snadbags to patch the levees.

Hamburglar · 09-23-2005, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raged

the almighty $

thats what wrong with socity... money runs everything...people don't care about other peoples well being, just if they got money

look at space exploration....who gives a rats ass about cost, mankind is furthering there knowledge.
people piss me off

and yes i'm a hippie

09-23-2005, 10:28 AM	#1
jdv the polarbear conservation corps protects a polarbear homie straight outa' compton because polarbears love klondike bars Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 34,185	New Orleans levee fails; floods again God damn, it just don't get any better down there. NEW ORLEANS - Hurricane Rita’s steady rains sent water pouring over a patched levee Friday, cascading into one of the city’s lowest-lying neighborhoods in a devastating repeat of New Orleans’ flooding nightmare. “Our worst fears came true,” said Maj. Barry Guidry of the Georgia National Guard. “We have three significant breaches in the levee and the water is rising rapidly,” he said. “At daybreak I found substantial breaks and they’ve grown larger.” Dozens of blocks in the Ninth Ward were under water as a waterfall at least 30 feet wide poured over and through a dike that had been used to patch breaks in the Industrial Canal levee. On the street that runs parallel to the canal, the water ran waist-deep and was rising fast. Guidry said water was rising about three inches a minute. The impoverished neighborhood was one of the areas of the city hit hardest by Katrina’s floodwaters and finally had been pumped dry before Hurricane Rita struck. Throughout Friday morning, water began rising again onto buckled homes, piles of rubble and mud-caked cars that Katrina had covered with up to 20 feet of water. Ninth Ward believed cleared of residents Sally Forman, an aide to Mayor Ray Nagin, said officials knew the levees were compromised, but they believe that the Ninth Ward is cleared of residents. “I wouldn’t imagine there’s one person down there,” Forman said. Mitch Frazier, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers, said contractors were being brought in Friday morning in an effort to repair the new damage. The corps had earlier installed 60-foot sections of metal across some of the city’s canals to protect against flooding and storm surges. Refugees from the Lower Ninth Ward were housed at the Progressive Baptist church in Lafayette. They were watching the TV news as the canal levee was breached again, flooding their neighborhood anew. “It's like looking at a murder,” Quentrell Jefferson said. “The first time is bad. After that, you numb up.” Forecasters say anywhere from 3 to 5 inches of rain could fall in New Orleans as Rita passes Friday and Saturday. Another concern is the storm surge accompanying Rita, which could send water rising as much as 4 feet above high tide. Already Friday morning, rain was falling and a steady 20 mph wind, with gusts to 35 mph, was blowing. Higher than expected storm surge Army Corps of Engineers Brig. Gen. Robert Gen. Robert Crear blamed Friday's problems on a storm surge that was higher than expected so early in Rita's assault. “The surge is affected by the winds and we expect that to continue for several more hours,” he said, adding that contractors were being brought in Friday morning to repair the new damage with rock rocks and sandbags. Federal Emergency Management spokesman Butch Kinerney said the breaks appeared to be mainly in places where sand had washed away, and that the stone holding the wall together was still intact. FEMA was working with parish officials to pump out the water that was flowing from the levee, Kinerney said, but that main pump in the Ninth Ward was still inoperable because of Katrina damage. “It's just not holding,” St. Bernard Parish Sheriff Jack Stevens said as he watched water pouring from the same levee breaks at midmorning. “The only way you'll be able to get out of here will be by boat in about five or 10 minutes.” Because of uncertain weather conditions from Hurricane Rita, the recovery of bodies was suspended. Already the death toll from Hurricane Katrina stands at 841 in Louisiana, and at least 1,078 across the Gulf Coast. Grim advice from the governor As many as 500,000 people in southwestern Louisiana, many of them already displaced by Hurricane Katrina, were told to evacuate and many jammed roads north to escape. Glynn Stevenson, who swam out of his New Orleans house with belongings taped to his body, had just gotten settled into a trailer provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency when the call came for him to uproot again. “It’s nothing to get mad about,” he said Thursday. “Just keep a cool attitude and help your brothers.” As for those who refuse to leave, Gov. Kathleen Blanco advised: “Perhaps they should write their Social Security numbers on their arms with indelible ink.” Rita was headed for a Texas landfall but the massive storm threatened southwestern Louisiana as well, with tropical storm-force winds expected by noon and hurricane-force winds of 74 mph or higher by early Saturday. Flash floods were possible as 10 to 15 inches of rain was forecast. By midday Friday, state police said there was already low-level flooding in coastal Lafourche and Terrebonne parishes, forcing street closures. National Guard and medical units were put on standby in the city. Helicopters were being positioned, and search-and-rescue boats from the state wildlife department were staged on high ground on the edge of Rita’s projected path. Blanco said she also asked for 15,000 more federal troops. Buses running continuously “We’ve got buses running continuously to get residents out. We’re trying to learn from other areas, not to repeat their mistake,” said Cindy Murphy, a manager at the police bureau in Lake Charles. Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad Allen said three days worth of supplies, including food and water, for 500,000 people are ready and waiting around Louisiana, if needed after Rita. Hospitals around the state were shutting down, too. Jimmy Guidry, Louisiana’s state health officer, said patients from hospitals in Lake Charles and Cameron were being evacuated, some north to Alexandria, La., and others to hospitals as far away as Oklahoma. A mandatory evacuation order was in effect for homes on the eastern bank of the Mississippi, and police said people in the city’s Algiers section on the other side of the river would be wise to get out, too. But thousands stayed put. “I’m sticking it out,” said Florida Richardson, who sat on her front porch in Algiers, holding her grandson on her lap. “This house is 85 years old. It’s seen a lot of tornadoes and a lot of hurricanes. You can’t run from the power of God.”

09-23-2005, 11:04 AM	#2
UCBeau Legendary Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 8,602	should new orleans be rebuilt __________________ 01 Zinc Yellow Cobra Coupe 283 ci built motor s-trim/intercooler/snow kit

09-23-2005, 11:34 AM	#5
340.29m/s Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: KC, Mo Posts: 6,327	Good. __________________ I don't believe in signatures. Well, except for this one.

09-23-2005, 12:10 PM	#7
Hamburglar I masturbate to teletubbies Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dumpster behind an Iowa McDonalds Posts: 13,075	we got no place to stay boobies __________________

09-23-2005, 12:15 PM	#8
SaintTaris White people will now be known as Mayonanerwich eaters Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta Area Posts: 340	The Lower and St. Bernard Parish were already gone. If any place in NOLA had to flood again, might as well be the Lower 9 and the Parish. New Orleans will be rebuilt. 340.29m/s Eat a dick. A big black one you fucking fruit. __________________

09-23-2005, 11:23 AM	#4
U r B a N 96 Bringin sexy back Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 8,207	wow... just wow

09-23-2005, 12:27 PM	#9
grendel (>")> <("<) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: tx Posts: 3,890	As for those who refuse to leave, Gov. Kathleen Blanco advised: “Perhaps they should write their Social Security numbers on their arms with indelible ink.” in my town on the news they said that the people that were going to stay should write their name and ss# on their stomach with permanent marker, i laughed my ass off after i heard that __________________

09-23-2005, 12:28 PM	#10
UCBeau Legendary Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 8,602	but if this is gonna happen again in 100 years or whenver, is it a good idea to rebuild? __________________ 01 Zinc Yellow Cobra Coupe 283 ci built motor s-trim/intercooler/snow kit

09-23-2005, 12:40 PM	#12
UCBeau Legendary Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 8,602	if the levees are holding back water now, how can they be rebuilt? __________________ 01 Zinc Yellow Cobra Coupe 283 ci built motor s-trim/intercooler/snow kit

09-23-2005, 12:42 PM	#13
Hamburglar I masturbate to teletubbies Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dumpster behind an Iowa McDonalds Posts: 13,075	yea but amsterdam doesn't have hurricanes....i'd love to see what the people in Amsterdam would do if a hurricane hit them lol I think it should be rebuilt but they need a reliable form of evacuation when shit hits the fan like in this case...poor planning on everyones part is what fucked this up so bad or bring in a shit load of dirt and make it above sea level nice Sig sainttaris __________________ Last edited by Hamburglar; 09-23-2005 at 12:48 PM.

09-23-2005, 12:56 PM	#15
Hamburglar I masturbate to teletubbies Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dumpster behind an Iowa McDonalds Posts: 13,075	White people?? my question is why didn't they build a better levee? they knew shit like this would happean.... __________________

09-23-2005, 01:13 PM	#24
chaka Legendary Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 1,018	Those people should get the hint and get the fuck out. They have been using huge snadbags to patch the levees.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode


darkmesa Advertisement	Sponsored links