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Old 08-21-2008, 11:54 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I think they should cause when I was 18 we would find alcohol from others on base and pretty much all the college kids were drinking at the dorms at SDSU.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Just what I want, even younger stupider people in the bars... NO!

Just allow the 18yr olds in, then see how many statutory rape cases you get due to fake id's, 14-18 looks the same in many cases...
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:14 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Just what I want, even younger stupider people in the bars... NO!

Just allow the 18yr olds in, then see how many statutory rape cases you get due to fake id's, 14-18 looks the same in many cases...
Good point!
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:19 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Thats the thing, you lower the age, the only thing you accomplish is that you move the age group that drinks underage.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Thats the thing, you lower the age, the only thing you accomplish is that you move the age group that drinks underage.
You make it sound like that's a problem...
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:49 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You make it sound like that's a problem...
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Thats the thing, you lower the age, the only thing you accomplish is that you move the age group that drinks underage.
my thoughts EXACTLY matty!
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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i agree with whoever said make age for everything to 21. parents and schools baby kids so much thier maturity level has drop clean off the face of the earth...


what a 18yo was at in maturity level back in the 50's and early 60's has now become the norm for 25yo's


and Birthing needs just as much a license as marriage IMO, just tuffer control.
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:20 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Just what I want, even younger stupider people in the bars... NO!

Just allow the 18yr olds in, then see how many statutory rape cases you get due to fake id's, 14-18 looks the same in many cases...

Lower the age of consent also. [/problem]

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i agree with whoever said make age for everything to 21. parents and schools baby kids so much thier maturity level has drop clean off the face of the earth...


what a 18yo was at in maturity level back in the 50's and early 60's has now become the norm for 25yo's


and Birthing needs just as much a license as marriage IMO, just tuffer control.

I say make the age of emancipation 16 and kick their asses out of the fucking house. They'll grow up soon enough.
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Make it ok for military personel but only when confined to the bases. It can get really boring there.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:07 PM   #36 (permalink)
 
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And I agree with y'all. Instead of lowering the drinking age, raise the rest. Kids at 16 cause so many wrecks....why not wait until they're older and a little more mature and responsible?? Also, I think that the elderly should have stricter driving regulations as well. Make everyone get re-checked more often and don't be afraid to revoke licenses because some old grandma can't drive!
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:01 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:10 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Parents don't instill values, but the schools don't make kids tough anymore. Everybody's worried about hurting the kids' self esteems. No more losers, no one's better than anyone else...how else do you learn to strive for better if you don't learn that you aren't perfect just the way you are
its the parents fault for any and every problem a child has. teachers are responsible for teaching and controlling the learning nothing more.
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I beat the stupid out of my kids.



hey I didnt say you didnt, I know I will just because I know my kids will be just as stubborn as I was. Its funny because if you look at me, my brother and my sister, we all have the exact same personality, but we were raised differently. I grew up with jack squat in an 800 sq ft house in my grandparents backyard, I was homeschooled and played on 5 acres of woods and dirt, no video games, no computer and no cable tv. My parents beat my ass when I deserved it and gave me what rewards they could afford when I did something good, wich turned me into a stronger individual, I walk with my chin up and I'm confident and go for what I want yet I consider others and I take care of my family and friends. My brother started off being raised the same as me, but my parents inherited money built their own custom home with everything you could ever want and then started going soft... he got time-outs and was grounded, he was never beat, and sending him to his room meant he was grounded to a place with cable tv, a computer, internet and a game console. My parents also stopped rewarding good behavior and didnt really give him any posative affrimation, wich is why he's so quiet and shy and has zero confidence in himself. Now my sister... is a fucking brat. They do nothing but give her shit. They have a space underneath the stairs in her house thats the same size as my old bedroom was, and its full of fucking toys that are all hers and I mean fucking full, they dont disciplin her whatsoever, they just had shit over to her for no reason and if she doesnt get what she wants, she thows a fit untill she gets it.



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Old 08-21-2008, 04:13 PM   #40 (permalink)
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its the parents fault for any and every problem a child has. teachers are responsible for teaching and controlling the learning nothing more.
as a person getting into the teaching profession i heart joo and this comment!!!!
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:18 PM   #41 (permalink)
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as a person getting into the teaching profession i heart joo and this comment!!!!
its the truth
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:24 PM   #42 (permalink)
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its the truth
you , me and 99% of DM think so, but alas about 80% of american parents think the school system is in charg of all areas of parenting, EXCEPT for the few things THEY want to teach them... which is usually to late anyway (sex ed.) in Pinellas county it was started in 7th grade, eventually parents complained its not the schools yob to, APARENTLYwithin 2 years preteen and teenage pregnancy was up high enough for them to reinstate it with a permission slip (could be rumor) but it disapeared year after i went through it and came back shortly b4 i graduated highschool i hate adults...



but its like that in a lot of areas of education its like its thier job to feed and cloth the kids and our to "raise" them sorry common sence is NOT part of MY contract
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:28 PM   #44 (permalink)
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yeah i honestly think it should be part of physical education/some form of requirement in 6th/7th grades, JMHO
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but its like that in a lot of areas of education its like its thier job to feed and cloth the kids and our to "raise" them sorry common sence is NOT part of MY contract
there's just to many parents, that should not be parents... I'm all for having a birthing liscense lol want a kid? GTFO to the back of the line
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:31 PM   #46 (permalink)
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yeah i honestly think it should be part of physical education/some form of requirement in 6th/7th grades, JMHO

normally i would say that was too young but i guess thats the age that kids are starting now days. how sad
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:33 PM   #47 (permalink)
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yeah i honestly think it should be part of physical education/some form of requirement in 6th/7th grades, JMHO
I think it shouldnt be taught in school period lol its a waste of money, its again a parental responsiblity. "son... if you get a girl pregnant, I'll chop your dick off, cook it on the bbq an