McCain chooses Palin

**ReyRey** · 08-29-2008, 10:29 AM

McCain chooses Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for V.P. - Yahoo! News

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DENVER - John McCain tapped Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a conservative who shares his maverick streak, to be the Republican vice presidential running mate on Friday in a startling selection on the eve of the Republican National Convention.

In an announcement, McCain's campaign said that Palin, who has been governor less than two years, "has the record of reform and bipartisanship that others can only speak of.
"Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what is needed in Washington today," the announcement said.
McCain and Palin were appearing together in swing-state Ohio later in the day.
Palin has a strong anti-abortion record, and her selection was praised warmly by social conservatives whose support Mccain needs to prevail in the campaign for the White House.
"It's an absolutely brilliant choice," said Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University school of Law. "This will absolutely energize Mccain's campaign and energize conservatives," he predicted.
With his pick, McCain passed over more prominent contenders like Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, as well as others such for former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, whose support for abortion rights might have sparked unrest at the convention that opens Monday in St. Paul, Minn.
The timing of McCain's selection appeared designed to limit any political gain Obama derives from his own convention, which ended Thursday night with his nominating acceptance speech before an estimated 84,000 in Invesco Field in Colorado.
Public opinion polls show a close race between Obama and McCain, and with scarcely two months remaining until the election, neither contender can allow the other to jump out to a big post-convention lead.
At 44, Palin is a generation younger than two of McCain's seven children. She also is considerably younger than Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, who is Barack Obama's running mate on the Democratic ticket.
She is three years Obama's junior, as well — and McCain has made much in recent weeks of Obama's relative lack of experience in foreign policy and defense matters.
In its formal announcement, the campaign pointed to her powers as head of the Alaska National Guard and the mother of a soldier herself as evidence that she "understands what it takes to lead our nation..."
McCain has had months to consider his choice, and has made it clear to reporters that one of his overriding goals was to avoid a situation like 1988, when then-Sen. Dan Quayle was thrown into a national campaign with little preparation.
A self-styled hockey mom and political reformer, Pallin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, population 6,500, until she became governor.
Palin flew overnight to an airport in Ohio near Dayton, and even as she awaited her formal introduction, some aides said they had believed she was at home in Alaska.
She is a former mayor of Wasilla who became governor of her state in December, 2006 after ousting a governor of her own party in a primary and then dispatching a former governor in the general election.
More recently, she has come under the scrutiny of an investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that she ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper.

Palin has a long history of run-ins with the Alaska GOP hierarchy, giving her genuine maverick status and reformer credentials that could complement McCain's image.
Two years ago, she ousted the state's Republican incumbent governor, Frank Murkowski in the primary, despite having little money and little establishment backing.
She has also distanced herself from two senior Republican office-holders, Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don young. Both men are under federal corruption investigations.
She had earned stripes — and enmity — after Murkowski made her head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. From that post, she exposed ethical violations by the state GOP chairman, also a fellow commissioner. Her husband, Todd Palin, is part Yup'ik Eskimo, and is a blue-collar North Slope oil worker who competes in the Iron Dog, a 1,900-mile snowmobile race. The couple lives in Wasilla. They have five children, the youngest of whom was born in April with Down syndrome.

semperfi510 · 08-29-2008, 10:42 AM

Kind of surprised me but I think it's a good idea. Should get some of the Hilary supporters to atleast look his way

**ReyRey** · 08-29-2008, 11:00 AM

I'm insulted that they think those of us who supported Hilary will vote for him simply b/c he has a female as his vp.

I don't like her.

They're making her out to be such a saint, the all american pta mom. 5 kids, oldest son is getting deployed to the middle east, youngest son (who was JUST born) has down's, hockey mom, blah blah blah

**menace** · 08-29-2008, 11:01 AM

Just as there are people dumb enough to vote for Obama because he is black, there are people who will vote for her because she is a woman.

**madmatt** · 08-29-2008, 11:53 AM

McCain has it in the bag with this move, methinks.

Not saying its a good thing, but Menace summed it up

ryanrule · 08-29-2008, 12:25 PM

well the repubs cant open their mouth about experience anymore. she essentially has none.

Therapist · 08-29-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by madmatt

McCain has it in the bag with this move, methinks.

Not saying its a good thing, but Menace summed it up

I dont agree with much about mcain, but its a discgrace that obama's even made it this far (wich has nothing todo with his color, just his actions)

cleric · 08-29-2008, 02:29 PM

obama shored his mccain creds with with liberman

mcain shored his obama creds with her

Think about it. Obama is an inexperienced young all american QB kinda of guy and got an experienced older VP.

Mcain is an older experienced guy who got a younger rouge to be his VP

**ReyRey** · 08-29-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by madmatt

McCain has it in the bag with this move, methinks.

Not saying its a good thing, but Menace summed it up

not if anybody pays attention to experience, he doesn't.

like daniel said, i'd say they're about even now. palin started out AS A PTA MOM, ran for city official or some bull shit, then went on to mayor of her town, then governor....OF ALASKA. Forgive me for thinking there may not be an overabundance of choices in ALASKA. No one has even heard of her until now. What's going to happen if McCain croaks 3 months into office? We get left w/ her? no thanks.

However, if someone assassinates Obama (that'd probably be the way it'd happen if he did die), we'd be left w/ Beau Biden, who isn't all that bad. At least he has some knowledge of what the fuck is going on.

**ReyRey** · 08-29-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cleric

obama shored his mccain creds with with liberman

did you mean Biden?

cleric · 08-29-2008, 03:03 PM

I am sorry, The dems are going to push some bad stuff down. They are going to increase govt spending so much its sad.

Tonto-T · 08-29-2008, 03:10 PM

ha... I love it.

**menace** · 08-29-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ReyRey

like daniel said, i'd say they're about even now. palin started out AS A PTA MOM, ran for city official or some bull shit, then went on to mayor of her town, then governor....OF ALASKA. Forgive me for thinking there may not be an overabundance of choices in ALASKA. No one has even heard of her until now. What's going to happen if McCain croaks 3 months into office? We get left w/ her? no thanks.

Just like no one had heard of Obama until the election crap started?

nEighter · 08-29-2008, 03:56 PM

god help us all...

what is a snow machine? And how do they race???

:fuckinghick:

ryanrule · 08-29-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cleric

I am sorry, The dems are going to push some bad stuff down. They are going to increase govt spending so much its sad.

yes, because the past 8 years are a golden example of fiscal solvency and financial planning

now if they refocus govt spending, a lot could be done.

tx3nc · 08-29-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanrule

well the repubs cant open their mouth about experience anymore. she essentially has none.

Yeah, being governor of a state provides no experience what so ever.

What was it that Blow Job Clinton did before he became prez that prepared him so well?

**jdv** · 08-29-2008, 06:49 PM

Reagan was a governor, who was a "b" actor without "credentials" or "experience" as well. He was our last great president we have had.

Clinton was also a good one, but he was not as notable as Reagan.

There will be PLENTY of people voting for McCain just because he has chosen a female running mate.

Obama was relatively unknown until about three years ago.

Likewise, there will be PLENTY of people voting for Obama, because he is black.

That's how it is.

ryanrule · 08-29-2008, 07:05 PM

reagan had been involved politics since the early 60's. dont just outright lie to continue your argument

im not saying inexperience is that bad, im saying this choice removes the issue, and if it is brought up by their campaign as a negative towards obama, they will be roasted on it.

**BlackArtemis** · 08-29-2008, 07:10 PM

I called this shit MONTHS ago

**jdv** · 08-29-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanrule

reagan had been involved politics since the early 60's. dont just outright lie to continue your argument

im not saying inexperience is that bad, im saying this choice removes the issue, and if it is brought up by their campaign as a negative towards obama, they will be roasted on it.

First problem. You called me a liar without checking your facts. He was involved with politics in the 50's as a tv host. You're a hypocrite.

Second problem. Continue my argument? I NEVER had an argument, I made a statement and it was my first post. Scroll up and check for yourself rather than take my word for it.

cleric · 08-29-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanrule

yes, because the past 8 years are a golden example of fiscal solvency and financial planning

now if they refocus govt spending, a lot could be done.

actually military spending is far better at stimulating the economy then most things. I do not mind defeict spending. I am against stupid spending which obama will do.

I think being a mayor and gov is more experience then being a senator.

Tonto-T · 08-29-2008, 07:24 PM

I would stick it in sarah palin...

Now, if I had to have Obama and Biden or McCain and Palin over for a BBQ... I would pray for rain so I could cancel.

edit... but, I would rather have some crazy old war vet and gilf over than some quasi-American black dude and some random white guy.

Therapist · 08-29-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonto-T

I would stick it in sarah palin...

Now, if I had to have Obama and Biden or McCain and Palin over for a BBQ... I would pray for rain so I could cancel.

edit... but, I would rather have some crazy old war vet and gilf over than some quasi-American black dude and some random white guy.

a quasi-american black dude who doesnt salute the flag during the national anthem... guy shouldnt even be a fucking citizen let alone running for president... he's a fucking joke, if he somehow weasles his way into the office every fucking towl head in the middle east is going to be laughing his ass off

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jdv the polarbear conservation corps protects a polarbear homie straight outa' compton because polarbears love klondike bars Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 32,853 Blog Entries: 2	Reagan was a governor, who was a "b" actor without "credentials" or "experience" as well. He was our last great president we have had. Clinton was also a good one, but he was not as notable as Reagan. There will be PLENTY of people voting for McCain just because he has chosen a female running mate. Obama was relatively unknown until about three years ago. Likewise, there will be PLENTY of people voting for Obama, because he is black. That's how it is. __________________ 1968 Mustang Coupe

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ryanrule change my ct Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Madison. Go boobies. Posts: 5,286	reagan had been involved politics since the early 60's. dont just outright lie to continue your argument im not saying inexperience is that bad, im saying this choice removes the issue, and if it is brought up by their campaign as a negative towards obama, they will be roasted on it. __________________

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Tonto-T Former Manwhore Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,730	I would stick it in sarah palin... Now, if I had to have Obama and Biden or McCain and Palin over for a BBQ... I would pray for rain so I could cancel. edit... but, I would rather have some crazy old war vet and gilf over than some quasi-American black dude and some random white guy. __________________ D* in a post/thread = I was drunk when I was typing Hi, My Name is Wes *sit on myspace*