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Old 09-11-2008, 11:03 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:07 AM   #27 (permalink)
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what really scares me more than extreamests for a government conspiracy, are those in this country that just go... "it was what ever our government said it was, and to say otherwise is disrespectful to those that died"

imean they are the ones that would just be like OMG Boston just got nuked wtf happened???

President says it was Russia, we need to nuke them

they dont even think twice about actually looking into it, and just say ok nuke moscow then!!!




blind citezens that care not to question events, and who just want/care to believe what ever they are told by our "leaders" are far worse IMO than those that make an efffort to find out what may have actually happened.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:12 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I feel for the victims and the families that dies on 9/11. Every year when this date rolls around i can remember watching the news before work and seeing the second plane hit, very shocking thing to see on TV, it was almost too unreal to actually believe.

What i also think is very sad is to see people (namely politicians) waving the banner of Terrorism and 9/11 Memories in order to get support for what they want.

While many things have changed since 9/11 many things have not. I have seen cases where the U.S. Government delays a persons immigration case for 6 or 7 years without making a decision, and their reasoning is they are doing background checks to make sure someone is not a terrorist, but, why is it taking 6 or 7 years to make a determination if someone is or not? Meanwhile, if they were a terrorist, they are here for 6 or 7 years doing whatever they want. Or, if Immigration or the Department of Justice indicates that someone might be a terrorist or a member of a Tier III Organization, they do not make that ruling and deny their case, they tell them that they suspect that it is a terrorist organization or a Tier III organization and they are denying their case... Which, does nothing except allow someone to appeal their case. Either you are a terrorist or not, there is no middle line to say "maybe you are"
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:15 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Everyone should put their theories and politics to the side for the day.

Today is about honoring the victims of the tragedy, not making points.

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Old 09-11-2008, 11:32 AM   #31 (permalink)
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what really scares me more than extreamests for a government conspiracy, are those in this country that just go... "it was what ever our government said it was, and to say otherwise is disrespectful to those that died"

imean they are the ones that would just be like OMG Boston just got nuked wtf happened???

President says it was Russia, we need to nuke them

they dont even think twice about actually looking into it, and just say ok nuke moscow then!!!




blind citezens that care not to question events, and who just want/care to believe what ever they are told by our "leaders" are far worse IMO than those that make an efffort to find out what may have actually happened.
so are you saying that i don't questions events? or that im am agreeing with what happened or with what the president did over the matter? because if that is what you are trying to imply then you are wrong.

thats not what im saying, what im trying to say is that the conspircy folk, take some stuff a little to over the top sometimes and can come across disrespectful to the family members who lost someone in this event (or any event)... now wether or not that is the case, i don't know... because im sure some of the family members may think it's a conspiracy or what have you too, and if they do then thats fine... but for the family members who want all this hoopla to end, may never see and ending to it.

All im saying is if i had lost someone in the towers and i saw a bunch of idiots paradeing around and showing the videos over and over all the while trying to dig up something and asking stupid random questions about something that is distantly linked to the event, i would be pissed, and feel like the person i lost in that event is going to be nothing more than a part of a useless conspiracy and not get the respect and peace that they deserve. thats all im saying, some people take some things a little to over the top with conspircies.... now also dont get me wrong, i love myself a good conspiracy, but something of this magnatude seems to need a little more respect in my eyes. but its all a matter of opinions and views on whatever may be in question.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:33 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:52 AM   #33 (permalink)
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so are you saying that i don't questions events? or that im am agreeing with what happened or with what the president did over the matter? because if that is what you are trying to imply then you are wrong.

thats not what im saying, what im trying to say is that the conspircy folk, take some stuff a little to over the top sometimes and can come across disrespectful to the family members who lost someone in this event (or any event)... now wether or not that is the case, i don't know... because im sure some of the family members may think it's a conspiracy or what have you too, and if they do then thats fine... but for the family members who want all this hoopla to end, may never see and ending to it.

All im saying is if i had lost someone in the towers and i saw a bunch of idiots paradeing around and showing the videos over and over all the while trying to dig up something and asking stupid random questions about something that is distantly linked to the event, i would be pissed, and feel like the person i lost in that event is going to be nothing more than a part of a useless conspiracy and not get the respect and peace that they deserve. thats all im saying, some people take some things a little to over the top with conspircies.... now also dont get me wrong, i love myself a good conspiracy, but something of this magnatude seems to need a little more respect in my eyes. but its all a matter of opinions and views on whatever may be in question.
no im more upest at the fucking bush huggers currently outside the Library at school right now having an open campus debate with the god damn BS radicle Bush haters about this very day ... and my mailbox

i dont side with either. but i HAVE found that relatively speaking those on the "its disrespectful to the familys to say it was our government who did it" people are fucking idiots and think that any questioning of the events in any form, or saying it COULD be a conspiracy is somehow morally wrong. and for anyone to have questions, or theories about the events are also wrong, and seem to condem them and say they need a reality check/ need to get slapped. but i merely question why?


why do i need to get slapped because i feel the way i do? its this "you dont believe what i believe so your a moron" attitude throughout any and all debates that just makes me question even more. imean why is it that there can't be both. why cant people on one side just respect the thoughts of the people on the other it confuses and saddens me. my mailbox issue is what pisses me off enough to take it a step further.

i didnt mean to attack you, or anyone else with the post, just as much as i meant to attack you (try to figure that one out) but its statements like the one i bolded from your OTHER post that usually get me going...
oh yeah and my god damn mail box!!!!!!



im not disrespectful just because i think GW and company had a hand in these particular events.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:56 AM   #34 (permalink)
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no im more upest at the fucking bush huggers currently outside the Library at school right now having an open campus debate with the god damn BS radicle Bush haters about this very day ... and my mailbox

i dont side with either. but i HAVE found that relatively speaking those on the "its disrespectful to the familys to say it was our government who did it" people are fucking idiots and think that any questioning of the events in any form, or saying it COULD be a conspiracy is somehow morally wrong. and for anyone to have questions, or theories about the events are also wrong, and seem to condem them and say they need a reality check/ need to get slapped. but i merely question why?


why do i need to get slapped because i feel the way i do? its this "you dont believe what i believe so your a moron" attitude throughout any and all debates that just makes me question even more. imean why is it that there can't be both. why cant people on one side just respect the thoughts of the people on the other it confuses and saddens me. my mailbox issue is what pisses me off enough to take it a step further.

i didnt mean to attack you, or anyone else with the post, just as much as i meant to attack you (try to figure that one out) but its statements like the one i bolded from your OTHER post that usually get me going...
oh yeah and my god damn mail box!!!!!!



im not disrespectful just because i think GW and company had a hand in these particular events.
oooooh


just go buy a shotgun and a surveylence camera and be done with the mailbox issue
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:06 PM   #35 (permalink)
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oooooh


just go buy a shotgun and a surveylence camera and be done with the mailbox issue
yeah i want to do some form of surveylence camera system incase its someone doing it on purpose... cause id sooo love to be like i have this tape, and this cop, and this mail carrier who can all get the video of your son/daughter/you damaging my mailbow which is a felony offence, OR i have this tape that you can buy for undisclosed $$$ and the knowledge not to FUCK with my property agian


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Old 09-11-2008, 12:09 PM   #36 (permalink)
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LOL. camera systems are relatively cheap... or you can actually just get a regular handheld camera and hide it in the front yard for a day, but you would have to have someone change the tape often and make sure it has plenty of battery.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:17 PM   #38 (permalink)
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our country is not fucked up enough to do it to ourselves... not because it cares about the people, but it does care about the money that was lost.

this day makes me angry all over again...
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our country is not fucked up enough to do it to ourselves... not because it cares about the people, but it does care about the money that was lost.

this day makes me angry all over again...
not touching this one debate wise untill tommorow R-E-S-P-E-C-T but those that be proffitted pretty hefty financially oddly enough. but at the cost of the lives lost is BS i still tear up seeing people rather jump than burn
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yea, seeing the jumpers is gut-wrenching...
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yea, seeing the jumpers is gut-wrenching...
watching people jumping rather than burning from 20+ stories up is just the MOST mobid thing i have ever sceen. with that said... i dont think i could have jumped... unelss there was 0 way out. if there was a way THROUGH the flames... put something around my body and run through it to the other side over jumping... the feeling of knowing you are going to die at the end of that short trip is a rediculously big enough of a deterent for me to try and fight through the fires... then i could video it and dub in Throught teh fire and flames if i made it out alive
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Id probably just start inhaling the smoke like a madman

although, Vanilla sky gives the jumping thing a little different perspective...
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Id probably just start inhaling the smoke like a madman

although, Vanilla sky gives the jumping thing a little different perspective...
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