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Old 10-03-2008, 01:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:34 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who finds it incredibly amusing that when the bailout was first voted down, the market dropped and now when the bailout is approved... the market drops?


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Old 10-03-2008, 03:15 PM   #28 (permalink)
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... a one world currancy? the illuminati?
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who finds it incredibly amusing that when the bailout was first voted down, the market dropped and now when the bailout is approved... the market drops?


WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US!??!?!?

I know you probably know, but the dollar is all but dead. Come January it is gunna be FECKED here in the us. World economy is gunna be uber bad too.

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... a one world currancy? the illuminati?
yeup. then by the time our kids kids kids kids kids overthrow that entity.. earth will be a pile of smoking rubble...
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Old 10-03-2008, 06:17 PM   #30 (permalink)
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and this years darwin award winnar????

the american people, collectively......
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epic financial fail...
+1. So instead of the economy taking its massive dump quickly, it'll be drawn out over about a decade. Nice.
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Fuck congress. Keep ron paul, fuck everyone else.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:03 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Why the fuck am I coming back home, I should just stay here and try to get a part in JCVD's new movie filmed here.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:46 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:21 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:26 AM   #38 (permalink)
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and this years darwin award winnar????

the american congress......

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Old 10-04-2008, 02:08 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:39 PM   #40 (permalink)
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nope. we elected them in there... and we'll be the ones paying for this bailout not them :/ we earned it...
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anyone catch some of the riders that made it onto the bill? lol thats how the votes got changed I bet.
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anyone catch some of the riders that made it onto the bill? lol thats how the votes got changed I bet.
I did... :embarassed: yes I did.. the wind act of 2008 (or whatever it is) is in there. I don't see why they can do that, you want to pass a bill saving childrens lives.. a rider says that the bil also covers more funding for Iraq
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how about the one that repeals a tax on wooden arrows...
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how about the one that repeals a tax on wooden arrows...
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wasnt the first bailout like 4 pages and this new one is like 300?
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:03 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I think they are around p267 or so. Dont have a copy to look it up.

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Sec. 503. Exemption from excise tax for certain wooden arrows designed for use by children.
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The bailout bill also gives the Internal Revenue Service new authority to conduct undercover operations. It would immunize the IRS from a passel of federal laws, including permitting IRS agents to run businesses for an extended sting operation, to open their own personal bank accounts with U.S. tax dollars, and so on. (Think IRS agents posing as accountants or tax preparers and saying, "I'm not sure if that deduction is entirely legal, but it'll save you $1,000. Want to take it?") That section had expired as of January 1, 2008, and would now be renewed. Starting with the so-called Anti-Drug Abuse Act in 1988, the IRS has possessed this authority temporarily, with occasional multiple-year lapses. A 1999 internal report said the IRS had 126 "trained undercover agents" working in field offices at the time. This is the first time that such undercover authority would be made permanent. Sens. Max Baucus (D) and Chuck Grassley (R) have been pushing to make it permanent for a while, claiming (PDF) in April that: "Undercover operations are an integral part of IRS efforts to detect and prove noncompliance. The temporary status of this provision creates uncertainty, as the IRS plans its undercover efforts from year to year." There's another section of the bailout bill worth noting. It lets the IRS give information from individual tax returns to any federal law enforcement agency investigating suspected "terrorist" activity, which can, in turn, share it with local and state police. Intelligence agencies such as the CIA and the National Security Agency can also receive that information. The information that can be shared includes "a taxpayer's identity, the nature, source, or amount of his income, payments, receipts, deductions, exemptions, credits, assets, liabilities, net worth, tax liability, tax withheld, deficiencies, overassessments, or tax payments, whether the taxpayer's return was, is being, or will be examined or subject to other investigation or processing, or any other data received by, recorded by, prepared by, furnished to, or collected by the Secretary with respect to a return." That provision had already existed in federal law and automatically expired on January 1, 2008. What's a little odd is that there's been little to no discussion of the IRS sections of the bailout bill, even though they raise privacy concerns. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said this week: "I will continue to work with congressional leaders to find a way forward to pass a comprehensive plan to stabilize our financial system and protect the American people by limiting the prospects of further deterioration in our economy." He never mentioned the necessity of additional IRS undercover operations.
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